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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. intimigator1

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    You wrote:

    "as my position, has #$@$& all to do with politics".

    Which I interpret to be: "as my position, has pound dollar sign at dollar sign and, all to do with politics. I could be wrong but it doesn't really make much sense at all. :)
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    No, we really don't. Plenty of people with symptoms aren't being tested. Some of those people will get worse over time. This isn't something that kills people instantly.
     
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  3. NavyGator93

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    You could know quite a few that have been exposed, you (or they) just don't know it yet.
     
  4. rivergator

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  5. danmann65

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    My gut feel is that the majority of people who contract this virus are asymptomatic or nearly so. So it's not 3 percent of the people who get the disease die its 3 percent of the people who are symptomatic die. My guess is that testing will increase the panic but only temporarily. My gut says in 6 weeks things will be heading back to normal.
     
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  6. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I KNEW it!

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  7. philnotfil

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    Somewhere between 12 and 20% are asymptomatic.

    20%- Eurosurveillance | Estimating the asymptomatic proportion of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases on board the Diamond Princess cruise ship, Yokohama, Japan, 2020

    12%- COVID-19 Symptoms
     
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  8. RIP

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    To those stating that testing is going swimmingly and anyone who wants it can get it:

    From another board. The guy's father is in his 70's (or maybe it's 80's?)

     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    The problem with lack of testing is we have no idea who has been exposed and could potentially test positive. An acquaintance of one of my colleagues that I sit near tested positive about 10 days ago. They were at the same club/restaurant about two weeks ago in Old Town Scottsdale, but not in the same party. But same place, same time. Can my colleague get tested? Not yet. Should he get tested? Yes.

    It's likely my colleague is negative, but the fact that he's been asymptomatic for two weeks doesn't mean he's not infected.
     
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  10. gator_fever

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    Of course there will be a few anecdotals as there always is but the people really sick with this stuff are being tested now and their deaths recorded if they succumb to it.

    The media is just weaponizing this everywhere hoping to make it easier to take Trump down. No matter what he did that turned out to be good and help out turned on him and then the new nonsense starts. That fact is we are in better shape than Western Europe with this stuff due to steps Trump took. And the other fact is we are overreacting to this stuff big time.
     
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  11. RIP

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    His doctor straight up told him there are a scarcity of tests and that they still aren't testing the patients that doctors think should get them (at the Mayo Clinic no less). This isn't some primary doc in Podunk FL.

    Also the fact is that we remain better off than Western Europe because we are behind them in time of outbreak and from the private sector shutting things down. It's in 49 states, while travel restrictions may have helped social distancing will do a better job of slowing the spread.
     
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  12. 92gator

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    I'll just address #3: No, its not.

    This is a variation/mutation of the corona virus--a well known 'commodity' (what's not known, is how resilient it is, and of course, how to destroy it once introduced into an organism (ie no vaccine)). But we know how it spreads, and among other things, it is not air bourne. So no, it aint spreading like some uber bug. Its just being id'd far more readily.

    (...and still mild head cold, compared to the major deadly contgions of history, like the Plague, or Spanish flu...).
     
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  13. gator_fever

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    The states that don't limit like crazy will not be any worse off due to that but will be better off for many workers financial situation.

    Below the lefty media cant help but show their true goal here along with the media in Western Europe.

    Coronavirus will finish Trump’s presidency
     
  14. 92gator

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    I see the Left being typically opportunistic, yes. I see the Left blowing the flu into historic (and histrionic) proportion, yes.

    I do not see convid19 as the 21st century Spanish Flu, nor anything remotely close.

    The only thing new here, is that this is, undoubtedly, THE WORST freak out over a bug, in my 50 orbits about the sun...
     
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  15. NavyGator93

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    Military, CDC, sports franchise owners, Wall Street...... All famously laden with "the left". The $1000 payout seems looney to me, but that isn't just the left calling for it.

    I think most people are taking a reasonable approach to the problem, but certainly not all. The crazies just get the airtime.

    Today, I am moving the company I work for right along. No one missing work, we are just taking precautions since most of my people have to be here to work. I am having some departments (Finance, HR, National Accounts....) work from home, but product still has to be produced and moved.
     
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  16. duchen

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    Trump tells states to find their own respirators. We need to rid ourselves of his evil in November.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/16/coronavirus-latest-news/
    • President Trump told governors Monday that states should work on getting respirators and ventilators, and not wait for the federal government to provide them. The president’s comment was confirmed by multiple officials briefed on the call to governors earlier today.
    • “We have not seen an urgent enough escalation in testing, isolation and contact tracing, which is the backbone of the response,” the director general of the World Health Organization said at a news conference.
    • “When you look at the projections, there’s every chance that we could be Italy,” the U.S. surgeon general warned Monday. Widespread social distancing could help change that trajectory, he said.
    • The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is urging a nationwide halt to gatherings of more than 50 people for the next eight weeks. About 3,500 coronavirus cases have been reported in the United States, though experts suspect the true number is much higher.
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    FROM the CDC site.
    "Clinicians should continue to work with their local and state health departments to coordinate testing through public health laboratories. In addition, COVID-19 diagnostic testing, authorized by the Food and Drug Administration under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), is becoming available in clinical laboratories. This additional testing capacity will allow clinicians to consider COVID-19 testing for a wider group of symptomatic patients.

    Clinicians should use their judgment to determine if a patient has signs and symptoms compatible with COVID-19 and whether the patient should be tested. Most patients with confirmed COVID-19 have developed fever1 and/or symptoms of acute respiratory illness (e.g., cough, difficulty breathing). Priorities for testing may include:

    1. Hospitalized patients who have signs and symptoms compatible with COVID-19 in order to inform decisions related to infection control."
    I would be shocked at this point that a patient at Mayo in Jax can't get tested....
     
  18. pkaib01

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    So you are stating that she'd say it didn't escape from lab regardless of whether it did or not. So you choose, without a whit of corroborating evidence, to conclude it did. I suspect because such a position confirms some bias.

    The world must be such confusing and scary place to some.
     
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  19. 92gator

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    Fair point--the freaking out seems to be straddling the 'aisle', as the panic spreads a million times faster than this latest version of an old pest...as panics often do...

    But i wasn't the one saying its political, i was the one defending the perspective types (us), keeping perspective, in spite of politics, not because of it.

    Cant really say the same in reverse.
     
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  20. AzCatFan

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    I know this article has been posted before, it it makes sense to post it again. It states the obvious, that the number of infected people in the US is likely 25X to 50X what is being reported, but we don't know for sure, because the number of tests is woefully inadequate. This article is also a few days old, and the number of confirmed cases in the US has doubled in just three days.

    Anyone who thinks the reason the number of confirmed cases in the US is trailing is because of Trump's actions is engaging in dangerous, wishful thinking, and/or needs to remove his/her head from Trump's you know what in my opinion. Again, we have tested only 1/10 of the number of people tested in S. Korea, which is a country with about 1/6 of the US population!
     
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