China needs to cut the mess and tell whether they let this loose studying it in their lab in that town or if it it came from them eating snakes and bats in that market.
It’s the unfortunate reality of the team mentality in american politics. You are either for or against something, and will take it to any extreme needed to justify your position. There’s no room for a sensible middle ground anymore. Just look at this board.
My post, as my position, has #$@$& all to do with politics. Its grounded in a perspective guided by history, and an annoyance at overblown panic. Italy, Italy, Italy... Have yall never watched them play soccer? Talk about a flair for the dramatic...
^^^and just to clarify the history I refer to.... Spanish Flu The Plague Yellow fever Polio Small pox Scarlett fever...
How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus Virologist who worked in the Wuhan lab originally thought it escaped from the lab. The lab did alot of research on bats and coronaviruses. The doctors who originally sounded the alarm about the virus in Wuhan were muzzled and left in jail to die of the virus. The chinese learned from the Russians the benefit of dis-information and spreading propaganda.
"Meanwhile she frantically went through her own laboratory’s records from the past few years to check for any mishandling of experimental materials, especially during disposal. Shi breathed a sigh of relief when the results came back: none of the sequences matched those of the viruses her team had sampled from bat caves. “That really took a load off my mind,” she says. “I had not slept a wink for days.”"
What else could she say? Anything else and she would wind up like the doctor, who is no longer with us.
You really don’t see how political it is? I mean look at this board. It’s the same teams. Looks at the news. It’s the same teams. Come on! As far as Italy, are you really making light of close to 2000 deaths? Jeez. They also took a laid back approach and see what got them.
They will keep this up hoping it hurts Trump later with the economy. I just hope the southern Governors have enough sense not to go full stupid with these lockdowns like the ones up north.
If you aren't going to test and isolate, the only effective method is locking everybody down. And we can't test and isolate.
I understand testing medical people or others who have been exposed but drive through testing? Sounds to me like a waste of time. How often do we the normal public need to be tested? Every day, twice a week, monthly, just once? It is a test I don't see that it is going to cure anything. I'll stand by my original statement....for Joe public if you are sick stay home if not go about your normal business but be careful. BTW do you know anybody out of the tens of thousands of people you know who has been exposed? This would make for an interesting thread. I personally know one person, I posted this when Florida had it's first 2 cases, my daughter in law's sister was the nurse who attended the Manatee county case and she immediately went into a 14 day quaranteen. I know nobody else who has been exposed.
I will make a bet. I bet southern cases get no more out of control than those northern ones even if the Governors are smart and don't go full stupid shutting stuff down. New daily cases will probably peak on this stuff in the next 2 weeks and then start its downward trend as the warmer weather arrives also.
I guess we haven't seen them because of the partisan break down on this issue. If we had a D president, we'd see nothing but ammo / gun threads.
A lot of factors there (population concentration, level of international travel, etc.). However, we have no clue what the real infection rates are given the complete lack of testing. So the curve is more of a function of available tests than an actual reflection of the infection rate.
1. This is an overly simplistic view, IMO. I think there's a large part of the populace that thinks, "I'm not sure how bad this is, or how bad it will be, but leading scientists seem to think it's a big deal, so I'll do what I should to limit the impact." There's absolutely a spectrum of thought/concern going on. 2. That could be true. Also seems quite possible that we are indeed weeks behind Asia and Europe for obvious reasons. 3. That's pure speculation.
That is mostly what I am seeing but I tend to not hang with idiots and don't believe crap on social media. The far views get the most publicity but that doesn't mean they are the prevalent views.
But we do have an idea of the people with real symptoms in the US that need to be treated and it doesn't justify all this shutdown mess.