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Coronavirus - International stories and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. tampagtr

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    The story says the Administration was trying to lure a company, but only if the treatments it came up with were limited to the US
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    I AM IN ITALY AMID THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS. AMERICA MUST ACT NOW—AND ACT BIG | OPINION

     
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  3. pkaib01

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    "America First" is such a self-defeating mantra.
     
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  4. LouisvilleGator

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    A quick look at the numbers from Western Europe and it's quite easy to see how Mr. Trump has bungled the US response in comparison. Sure, their current infection per capita is 10 times higher than ours, but that's just because we aren't testing. Countries like Iran have magically been able to test and we just haven't. Once we set up testing, our numbers will dwarf Western Europe's. Just you wait. Western Europe is just so much smarter than our president. Thanks to Trump, we don't even get to have March Madness.
     
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  5. BLING

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    This doesn’t even make sense, who was going to own the rights, the govt, or was Trump thinking of starting up Trump Vaccines, inc?
     
  6. pkaib01

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    The numbers may or may not dwarf Europe's. Europe is weeks ahead of us in the transmission train. Our numbers are still tracking their's from first-patient epoch.

    We may learn lessons from China and Europe and handle it better. It may not matter. Our population's susceptibility may be different as well as quality and capacity of health care.

    I hope the social distancing helps.

    I truly don't understand how you are wired. But I suggest you better understand exponential processes and chaos theory.

    Exponential Growth: Definition & Examples - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com

    Here's a simple overview of CT that touches upon the impact of small changes on initial conditions may dramatically change outcomes (butterfly effect).

    Chaos Theory, The Butterfly Effect, And The Computer Glitch That Started It All
     
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  7. 96Gatorcise

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    When all is said and done it will be seen that the decisive decisions of the private sector(Sports and business) and local/state officials is what kept the death rate down.
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    Yes, the inability to test in the US is the issue. They have not had nearly the testing issues in Europe that we have had (and continue to have) here. Just about every other developed country has figured out testing better than we have. Sorry that you don't like that. I don't either. But I choose not to try to deny it because I don't like it.
     
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  9. ThePlayer

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    Court-martial?
    Pretty sure the Chinese go straight to Plan A....death by poison or firing squad.
     
  10. lacuna

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    I can only relate my own family's experience that spans 102 years. My mother had the Spanish flu in 1918 when she was 5 years old, but her 25 year old mother died from it. In 1978 I caught the Swine flu at the end of its first appearance after the mass outbreak at Fort Dix in New Jersey in 1976. I was 6 weeks pregnant with my 3rd child.

    My 65 year old mother cared for me during my illness and never got sick, so she must have retained immunity from having it as a young child. My 2 older children, who were 3 and 5 at the time, never got sick.
     
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  11. gator_fever

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    Trump was smart to halt travel from Chinese citizens to the US when he did. Italy actually had Chinese women there from a Chinese ad agency hugging people while carrying signs saying hug me I am not a virus. This while China was also doing all that restrictive stuff in their own country.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Viruses don't care about your citizenship. We let plenty of people that were in China into the country.
     
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  13. gator_fever

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    Meanwhile China is delivering meat to residents from garbage trucks..unbelievable...
     
  14. LouisvilleGator

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    The lack of testing is a false narrative the Democrats continue to peddle. As of March 6th, over a million test kits had been shipped out to various labs. There was an initial delay, but the narrative that there are tens of thousands more people infected out there and they just can’t get tested is a lie. The testing situation has improved greatly in the past week.
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    Yeah, that is completely untrue. They claimed they would. Here is what they were actually saying on March 6, when those million tests were supposed to be ready.

    From the BBC story on the matter (that won't link but instead becomes the associated video):

    He did go on to promise 1.2 million tests kits by the end of this past week, but that hasn't happened either.

    But yep, no more shortages:

    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article241163021.html

     
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  16. rivergator

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    Thousands of coronavirus test kits expected this weekend have not arrived

    Patients grow frustrated amid shortage of testing kits for novel coronavirus

    UC has a solution to the national shortage of coronavirus testing — do it in house
     
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  17. LouisvilleGator

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    I believe there are a ton more cases out there but the symptoms are so mild they have not been treated or tested. We will probably never know the real numbers in reality.
     
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  20. 96Gatorcise

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    Italy coronavirus deaths rise 25% to 1,809

    Italy recorded 368 new deaths from the COVID-19 outbreak on Sunday as the total rose to 1,809 from 1,441 a day earlier, the country’s civil protection authority said on Sunday.

    The number of positive cases rose to 24,747 from 21,157 a day earlier as Europe’s worst outbreak of the deadly virus continued to expand.
     
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