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Kavanaugh Hearing

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by ursidman, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. diehardgator1

    diehardgator1 VIP Member

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    Obama unemployment numbers dropped because unemployed kept dropping out of the work force so they did not show up in the figures. And the stock market under Trump continue to set new high. Those jobs obama said would never come back. Guess what they are coming back
     
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  2. diehardgator1

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    They do know what they are doing and the country is on a roll
     
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  3. Tjgators

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    silent voters that don't have to scream. you can see it with the signs in your neighborhood. polls are way off.
     
  4. LouisvilleGator

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    The Republican Party IS the country. We run the House, the Senate, the Governorships, the White House. Maybe you should try a different strategy that doesn’t involve coronating a horrible candidate and cramming her down voter’s throats?
     
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  5. ursidman

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    Earlier the JC committee (Repub staff) tweeted that in 6 prior FBI background checks there had been "no whiff" of improper sexual acts or alcohol abuse. Those background checks are confidential so the Dem's cannot publish them but by them saying that tweet was incorrect, apparently there is "a whiff" of improper sexual activity OR excessive drinking in those prior background checks.
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    The labor force participation rate hasn't meaningfully changed under Trump. Is that why unemployment is low now? As for the stock market, the Dow Jones doubled under Obama. Again, if Obama was trying to destroy the country, he accomplished very much the opposite.

    They really don't. Pushing him through now is going to halt the enthusiasm surge they were receiving from the partisan battle, and it will motivate the Democrats and left-leaning Independents who opposed Kavanaugh. You're about to push through a scandal-ridden, historically unpopular SCOTUS pick the month before an election. He's especially unpopular with the voters you need, college-educated women.

    What goes around comes around. Democrats and Republicans have been stuck in a cycle of partisan one-upping. When the Democrats end up back in power, they're going to stick it to the Republicans. It isn't good for the country, but too few people seem to care anymore. @PerSeGator talked about court packing, if I remember correctly (and I wrote you off when you said it, but I think you might end up being right). You better hope the Democrats don't win a filibuster-proof majority in 2020. That's the next logical step in this partisan tit for tat.

    EDIT: Here's an expert pointing out the issue with confirming Kavanaugh now:
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    You are only proving my point.

    What I meant by my comment is that I'm not sure what the implication of it all is. Do they have something real, or are they just playing games?
     
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  8. diehardgator1

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    The community orginazier experiment was a failure and it cost us $10 Trillion Dollars that is as much as all the Presidents before obama combined. Thank you lord the obama nightmare is over.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    You do realize that not only the debt but the deficit is currently expanding, right? Just figured that it must have slipped by your view.
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    What an embarrassment:
    The F.B.I. Probe Ignored Testimonies from Former Classmates of Kavanaugh
    Several former Yale students who claim to have information regarding the alleged incident with Ramirez or about Kavanaugh’s behavior at Yale said that they had not been contacted by the F.B.I. Kenneth G. Appold was a suitemate of Kavanaugh’s at the time of the alleged incident. He had previously spoken to The New Yorker about Ramirez on condition of anonymity, but he said that he is now willing to be identified because he believes that the F.B.I. must thoroughly investigate her allegation. Appold, who is the James Hastings Nichols Professor of Reformation History at Princeton Theological Seminary, said that he first heard about the alleged incident involving Kavanaugh and Ramirez either the night it occurred or a day or two later. Appold said that he was “one-hundred-per-cent certain” that he was told that Kavanaugh was the male student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He said that he never discussed the allegation with Ramirez, whom he said he barely knew in college. But he recalled details—which, he said, an eyewitness described to him at the time—that match Ramirez’s memory of what happened. “I can corroborate Debbie’s account,” he said in an interview. “I believe her, because it matches the same story I heard thirty-five years ago, although the two of us have never talked.”

    Appold, who won two Fulbright Fellowships, and earned his Ph.D. in religious studies from Yale in 1994, also recalled telling his graduate-school roommate about the incident in 1989 or 1990. That roommate, Michael Wetstone, who is now an architect, confirmed Appold’s account and said, “it stood out in our minds because it was a shocking story of transgression.”
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    Easy to claim that you can't corroborate the allegations when you make no effort to actually talk to people who could corroborate it. What a sham.

    EDIT: Here's a picture of Ramirez's corroborating witness:
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  11. GatorBen

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    Note that Coons and Klobuchar (the two Dem Judiciary members who have been trying to present as fair) didn’t sign that letter.

    It’s just Democrats making noise. If they thought that the prior background investigations actually contained anything remotely notable, no way that letter goes out with 2 of the 10 Committee Dems - both of whom are voting against the guy - having failed to join it.
     
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  12. ursidman

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    The missing signatures are noteworthy. It seems to be a pissing contest within the JC and they may think it beneath them to join in.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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  14. Nawlens Gator

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    GOP just trying its best to steer this country away from liberal socialism which is the goal of the democratic party.
     
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  15. mutz87

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    You know polls are way off, how?
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    The polls are off if he doesn't like what they say. It's kind of like how you can't trust science unless it confirms your desired conclusion. I just can't imagine living in a world where facts only exist if they confirm your preconceived conclusions.
     
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  17. mutz87

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    We have way too much of that going on. It depresses me. :(

    I think it's also a matter of drawing the wrong conclusions about the last election cycle. People have used the bad polls to *prove* their point that there is some silent majority out there (which is the idea that TJ suggested). But this wasn't/isn't the case. Basically 2/3rds of swing state polls & 3/4ths of national polls in the last 2 weeks before the 2016 election were within a 4 point margin of error (over 75% of those were w/in a 3 point MoI). There was, however, a persistent but not large under-counting of Trump support, particularly in swing states, and of course this turned out to be the difference bc we have an EC.
     
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  18. fastsix

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    Yes, it's just so obvious that trump has really turned the economy around after Obama destroyed it. All you have to do is look at the charts.

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  19. OaktownGator

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    No surprise, except perhaps him passing out regularly.

    Otherwise, confirmation of the obvious.
     
  20. GatorRade

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    Ok, but why did he wait so long to corroborate a story that just came out? And if he hates the devil so much, why did he attend college where such sexual assaults occur? And how did he get home from church yesterday?

    It’s pretty clear what’s happening once you put the pieces together...