Kavanaugh Hearing

Do you think Cosby should have been found guilty?

 

I hope the people who mocked Whelan for his dumb internet sleuthing (and Kavanaugh for his odd definitions) now realize that they are, apparently unironically, doing the same thing.

"Killer Qs and 151"?

"Why, that might be a drug nickname that literally no one has ever used before and a reference to a completely different kind of alcohol than what was alleged in Avenatti's nonsense! We've got him now!"

 

he won't because then her lawyers could subpoena anyone they want...not this charade coming out of the White House

 

From my recollection of early '80s party vernacular, Killer Q's are quaaludes, commonly used as a way to take advantage of an unsuspecting female. Also known as ludes, lemon 714's, cookies, stumble biscuits, etc. 151 would refer to 151 proof alcohol, usually vodka or rum. One cookie and a couple of 151's would likely knock one unconscious. For me, the lude alone would put me under.

 

I think the other reason he wouldn't is that the threat of a defamation lawsuit (and sometimes the actual filing of one) is frequently intended more as leverage to try to make someone shut up and go away than an actual attempt to disprove the defamatory statement and recover damages. Which is not exactly a great look for a Supreme Court nominee.

 

Agreed that it is definitely not a good idea to be doing this, but I thought the accusation was grain alcohol, like everclear (which is 151).

 

I've only ever heard "151" used to refer to overproof rum (from Bacardi 151).

Grain alcohol tends to be 190 proof except in states with proof restrictions, but even there I don't think that I've ever heard it referred to as "151" (which, as noted, is a widely used nickname for something else).

 

of course he lied under oath...several times...what rock are you living under?
you can go online to ANY site and see what he lied about...

 

Jeff Flake was quoted on 60 Minutes that if Kavanaugh was found to have lied under oath, Flake is voting no. I wonder if that statement is just about the sexual assault or if it takes into account all of Kavanugh's testimony? Because it's pretty obvious Kavanaugh lied about things like the devil's triangle, boofing, and the Renate Club. Also likely lied about never drinking so much that he blacked out. Interesting that both Judge and the Yale drinking buddy are both being interviewed by the FBI.

And these might be small lies to protect Kavanaugh's reputation, but they are lies nonetheless. And if Kavanaugh is willing to lie about the small stuff, what else is he willing to lie about?

Not to mention, Kavanaugh's lack of impartiality. His rant about the left and the Clintons should disqualify Kavanaugh from the SCOTUS period. Here's an excerpt from the American Bar Association:

Judicial independence means that judges are independent from political pressures and influences when they make their decisions. An independent judiciary is essential to maintaining the rule of law. Judges should not be pressured by a political party, a private interest, or popular opinion when they are called upon to determine what the law requires. Keeping the judiciary independent of these influences ensures that everyone has a fair chance to make their case in court and that judges will be impartial in making their decisions. Judges also must explain their decisions in public written opinions, and their decisions can be appealed to a higher court for review. These elements of judicial decision making ensure that judges remain accountable to the rule of law.​

 

Quaaludes have a lot of nicknames, but I've never heard (nor can I find online) anyone use either "Killer Qs" or "Qs" alone to refer to them. About the closest I've ever heard to "Qs" is "Quas."

The only way I have ever seen "Q's" used as a drug reference is as shorthand for quarters (quarter ounces).

 

Yes. And that situation was just like this Kavanaugh situation. I mean Just. Like. It. Honestly, it's so much like the Cosby thing, I wonder if they are not really clones of each other in some weird lab experiment Trump colluded with the Russians to perform.

 

Small lie to protect one's reputation is what got Clinton impeached.

 

Maryland (and Virginia) are pretty restrictive on the high proof grain alcohols. Apparently (and I didn't know this even though I lived there), you can't buy any form of Everclear in Maryland (no clue on the law back then, obviously). You can in Virginia, but only the 151 version.

 

Weren't you supporting Whelan as credible?

I don't know what they did in the 1980s, but when we "spiked" the punch when I was in college, we generally used Everclear and/or Baccardi 151. 151 isn't grain alcohol, though. Those were fun times.

 

I believe my take on Whelan was that, since he's a very smart guy, hopefully he had more to go on than what he posted on Twitter.

And I don't know that I've ever been anywhere where someone "spiked the punch." I've certainly been to parties that made judicious use of grain alcohol, but it was more a main ingredient (i.e., everyone knew it was there) in "hunch punch"/"jungle juice" than the very Hollywood-esque idea that there was a bowl of presumably non-alcoholic punch that someone had snuck alcohol into.

 

Oh, he did. Unfortunately, he was used and discarded by friends.

 

What's with "process crimes"?

Call it what it is.

Perjury. On matters directly relevant to the charges.

 

It was always everclear for ours. We used to make the 40 mile trip to PA to get it since NY didn't allow the sale of the 190 proof one in the 1990s.

I don't know if we called it "spiking" since we were up front about it. I have to think it's what helped drive the frosh/soph undergrads to our parties, well that and we converted a six-car garage into a party barn, complete with two hand crafted bars/six taps, a dance floor & dj booth and somewhat *functional* bathrooms. In fact, the police were able to shut it down for awhile charging some brothers with running a liquor establishment w/o a license.

 

Again, it is not perjury unless you can prove Kavanaugh knows what "boofing" really is. Perhaps he does, but you'd still have to prove it before a perjury charge can be brought. It is not, for example, like Bill Clinton claiming under Oath he had no extramarital affair with Gennifer Flowers.

 

We were certainly upfront about it too. A friend of mine had some brilliant concoction. Everclear was one of the main ingredients, but there were a lot of other things mixed in. It was phenomenal. Didn't even taste the alcohol.