Kavanaugh Hearing

Let's just say that I have faith in McConnell's ability to do the wrong thing.

 

No, it's basically a way to say, "I don't remember." If you're telling the truth, you don't fear perjury.

 

3 people for whom the party was not remarkable do not remember the party. With no professional investigation or tools to try to refresh their recollections. I went to a lot of events when so was in college. The unremarkable ones I don’t remember. But, I remember “fourth and dumb.” Trauma. I remember the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band concert they had to be stopped bc the wind almost blew down the lighting and my buddy and I ended up in an elevator with the band afterward. I remember heckling Nugeyn Kao Key off the stage in protest outside of Graham area. Other concerts and events? Not so much. Meanwhile, why are you misrepresenting the statements? Only Judge Kavanaugh, Judge and Dr. Ford were in the room. If you accept Dr. Ford’s story, Judge was complicit and, this week, he ran away and hid. His lawyer wrote a letter. For everyone else, an unremarkable party.

 

Not if accepted by the finder of fact

 

I just saw this, and I'm dying:

 

After she accused another man of sexual assault with no evidence other than her word? And was used as a political football to delay his confirmation to the Supreme Court? After her witnesses who were supposed to support her accusation said party with Kavanaugh, what party with Kavanaugh, one of whom doesn’t even remember attending any party with Kavanaugh? Who also scrubbed her social media accounts before going public? Seems like she came prepared for war, and not being blindsided like Kavanaugh was.

Versus someone who had just been drug through a nomination fight and thought everything was good, to have a last minute allegation with what turned out to be a he said, she said? And who is getting further drug through the mud with innuendo and hearsay being paraded as truth? Such as I was raped at a party, and I heard that Kavanaugh may have spiked the punch at a party, and he was at the party I was raped at, therefore Kavanaugh must have also raped me?

 

Ford spent a few years at the Delaware shore between high school and college. Apparently it’s quite the party place with kids from the DC area.

Christine Blasey Ford remembered in Dewey Beach bar scene

 

Kavanaugh Lied to the Judiciary Committee—Repeatedly

 

Why is it remote? Human's have pretty terrible memories, particularly of everyday things, and particularly from way long ago. I can't tell you how many parties I went to in HS. I remember about 3 or 4 max, two of which I threw. That was the mid 80s. I went to college in the early/mid 90s. Worked in a few different bars and belonged to a fraternity where i lived animal house for five years. I can't remember most of it, or most of the specific details of the fun parts other than the stories of particular exploits. And my guess, if you were honest with yourself, you'd probably admit not remembering specific details of your everyday life too, particularly long ago in the past. But you would remember being violently victimized or some other major incident.

It's not a plus or a minus. Not remembering is not remembering. It just shouldn't be surprising nor necessarily expected.

Indeed, it would have been helpful for Ford, no?

No one "acted like....is the biggest joke ever." Simply put, it shouldn't surprise you that people don't remember innoccous things about a single small party from nearly 40 years ago, nor that a person who alleges serious violent victimization who thought someone my suffocate her and kill her, even accidentally, would remember it searingly and who did it. The other witnesses cannot corroborate or dispute her allegations--which actually hurts her because it leaves open only her testimony and the truthfulness people would perceive.

It is often the case that there aren't eyewitnesses to crimes--or that others don't remember as the victim would remember.

I am not saying that Ford's statement proves Kavanaugh is guilty--there is always some doubt. But her statement under oath and all that she's said I find credible, far more credible than Kavanaugh's denials, which I think he made worse by denying he basically partied at all.

 

They aren’t worried about women stabbing them in the chest. They are worried about being stabbed in the back. Your wife seems like a front attack woman...#minetoo.

 

He just said what a bunch of his fellow travelers want to say.

 

Pretty damning.

 

Are you referring to Judge Kavanaugh?

 

You are relying on a chain of coincidences that each of her 3 witnesses would forget about a party she left early, and that her girl friend would also state that she doesn’t remember ever attending a party with Kavanaugh, is laughable. The fact that their sworn statements carry the penalty of perjury, and that any lawyer would not let them submit that statement without covering their client’s ass, is just magically wished away by you.

You are reading their testimony in the best possible light for Ford, instead of looking at their statements logically. Which is that all three witnesses are saying we don’t remember attending any such party that she is claiming we attended. But those three witnesses, along with the two “perps” must be wrong, and Ford’s memory must be right. Just ludicrous.


Let’s ask the attorneys on here who would allow their client to 100% confirm/deny an event that happened 35+ years ago, where the date and location of the event is not known and their client is not in jeopardy, without putting in some language that this statement they are making is to the best of their client’s recollection?

 

And if you are not entirely sure about an event 35 years ago, since the victim hasn’t given you a location or a date, any good lawyer will tell their client to cover their butt, even if that client is almost 100% sure it didn’t happen.

 

Another great article from a survivor:
Brett Kavanaugh and I have a lot in common (opinion) - CNN

This passage might give some of y'all perspective:
Some of those details set out in my scrawling script mirrored ones seared in my brain. My memory, after more than 30 years, was accurate. But there were additional details that I had not remembered. This included what and how much we were drinking that night. It also included how I got home.

This was the hardest part to relive. After he was done, he told me, you need to leave. But he did not want to walk me home. It was very late, and by then the gates closest to my Old Campus dorm were locked. He knew that. So, he told me I should climb over the fence. Fortunately, I ran into some new friends (remember, I had just started as a freshman) as I left his dorm and they walked with me to the main gate where we could gain entrance.

 

No, Trump did not. Flake said a week. Trump says "less than a week." Do you see the difference?

 

If you don't know, you say that you don't know. That's what they did. Why? Because that's the truth.

 

From you partisan description of Judge’s actions, I would have to say you should recuse yourself due to bias. Guilty until proven innocent, I see. Allegations rule, denials drool.

Trying to get out of the way so as not to cause any problems for your buddy isn’t a sign of guilt. Not appearing before this political circus is a sign of intelligence.

 

Or,

After she's been carrying this around for 36 years, with people at the party who may not have known what was really happening at the time, and maybe suppressed it, who maybe 36 years later found out the players involved and chose/were advised not to get involved in the poopstorm (who could not know Brett would be up for Supreme Court Justice back then), who might have scrubbed her social media in attempt to minimize the damage coming to her, her family, her friends and associates? Who has multiple degrees is psychology that could anticipate the hell that would most certainly be unleashed upon her? If she came prepared for war, it is certainly understandable.

Versus someone who over the years has learned that bullying, prestige, money, "don't you know who I am tactics", manufactured outrage and threatening can help you stomp your opponents regardless of the what the truth may or may not be, shouting down questioners, pulling out the "poor me" card, arrogantly denying facts he could not reasonably be expected to remember, but lying about it anyway?

Who stands the most to win and the most to loose here? Follow the money.