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Kavanaugh Hearing

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by ursidman, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. LouisvilleGator

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    So was her transportation after the alleged assault part of the traumatic event or was it not?
     
  2. mdgator05

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    Again, 1982 could reasonably be described as either as a matter of perspective.
     
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  3. 92gator

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    Good Lord I hate politicians.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    Not. The traumatic event is what went on in the bedroom (allegedly).
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    It would be part of the event emotionally, as was what day it was. The mundane details during trauma do not get encoded. Sensory perceptions often do. If there was no searing sensory perception from how she got home, then it is reasonable that she would have no memory of that.
     
  6. madgator

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    she's been credible because it's all adulation and softballs.....
     
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  7. madgator

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    She said it was "a short walk"

    as the crow flies it's 6 miles......8 miles in street distance.
     
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  8. 92gator

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    She couldn't state the year, let alone decide which part of the decade...

    It's not like she couldn't figure out what part of 80's 1982 falls in....she couldn't narrow down to what part of the decade this supposedly happened.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    But you just said, she narrowed it down. So she could state the year. She has.
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    And if she was raked over the coals by asking her to recount minute details, she would engender sympathy. Basically a lose lose situation for the Republican majority.
     
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  11. LouisvilleGator

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    Well, first of all, how you arrive home safely after an attempted rape, as a 15 year old girl without a license, would seem to be pretty traumatic, as it would be a flight to safety at the time and her home was 8 miles away. Calling that a "mundane detail" is a pretty giant leap. You then go on to make a blanket application of how SOME assault victims remember or don't remember their experiences, not all victims, and make another giant leap that how some women recollect would be the same way Dr. Ford does. My point is, you're making a bunch of excuses and leaps for her not to remember this. At some point, we have to be able to question her credibility, even if we are wrong in doing so, because otherwise, it'll become entirely too easy for this to happen to future nominees. Making big leaps and assumptions doesn't aid her credibility. I would say the idea that how she got home afterwards being a "mundane detail" is pretty dishonest considering if we are to believe her now, she was afraid for her life at the time. Thus, flight to safety would not have been a mundane detail for her.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    What is the context of the short walk comment, as I am unaware of it? Link to the quote?
     
  13. 92gator

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    I said she 'settled on'--b/c that's apparently what she did.

    Flip a coin...let's go with mid 80's!

    ...and she repeated a few minutes ago, how she needs some extrinsic info to help her triangulate the year--when M. Judge was working somewhere...apparently b/c where Mark Judge was, would help put Kav there.

    Hmmmmmmmmm.......
     
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  14. Jbarrett1359

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    Man the Dems cant just ask a question... All they can do is give speeches.
    I love that knowing a date when someone else worked somewhere would allow her to provide more detail. Its almost as if she needs a time frame in which to present the lie.
    Also, many times it has been stated that this isn't a criminal proceeding, its just a job interview. But the lawyers love to pull out "privilege" when they don't want to answer a question.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    This should definitely help the sales of one book. Currently, out of print but demand could result in a whole new print run.
    [​IMG]


     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    Agreed that the speeches are silly. However, it's ironic to complain about the Democrats not asking questions when the Republican Senators literally won't ask their questions.
     
  17. mdgator05

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    That is a blanket application of how trauma victims should remember things. But how they remember things isn't up to you.

    In the modern world, riding in a car or on a bus, or whatever is a pretty mundane event. My grandfather's house was a good 15-20 minute drive from where I lost the family member. Why do you think I don't remember how I got there?

    All psychology is heterogeneous. But any psychologist would tell you that memory generally becomes more sensory during trauma. It is pretty much axiomatic. So it is not surprising when memory behaves in that fashion. In fact, it is more surprising when it does not.

    She stopped being afraid for her life on the street and was not followed by Judge and Kavanaugh, according to her testimony.
     
  18. mdgator05

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    That is not what she said. She said it would help to narrow down on the specific date. She said that it happened in 1982. You are just hand waving around that.
     
  19. madgator

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    well isn't that just a peachy situation.

    have someone make a claim that not one person supposedly present has been willing to corroborate then demanding that the accused prove a negative by himself because the accuser has to be handled like a kindergartener
     
  20. chantsgator

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    She is clear to state she only had one beer at the party, how can the rest be not as cleared. Also, how often does she drink? How much does she drink when she drinks? Did she drink a lot as a 13-17 year old teen? I would go that direction as well.
     
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