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Kavanaugh Hearing

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  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Traumatic events often include gaps in memory, especially for fairly mundane details. Memory is much more sensory during trauma.
     
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  2. citygator

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    Just asked my friend who was sexually assaulted as to how they got home afterwards. Doesn’t remember.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    I didn't demean Dershowitz. I said this is not what he's specializes in and that he's a talking head at this point. Dershowitz is a criminal defense lawyer, and I'm not sure if he's even taking clients anymore. Katz specializes in this. And she's reputable in more than just liberal circles. Partisan hacks can consider her disreputable because they don't like what she does or how she advocates, but that doesn't hold any water in the legal world.
     
  4. 92gator

    92gator GC Hall of Fame

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    Mid 80's, early 80's....need to know when M. Judge worked at speedway to know when???.

    SMDH.....
     
  5. gator_lawyer

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    How Reliable Are the Memories of Sexual Assault Victims?
     
  6. madgator

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    Just doesn't matter to some people that all 4 supposed eye witnesses have all denied knowledge or that the event happened at all.
     
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  7. Bazza

    Bazza GC Hall of Fame

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    cour·te·sy
    noun
    noun: courtesy
    the showing of politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others.
    "he had been treated with a degree of courtesy not far short of deference"
    synonyms: politeness, courteousness, good manners, civility, respect, respectfulness; More
    chivalry, gallantry;
    graciousness, consideration, thought, thoughtfulness, cordiality, urbanity, courtliness
    "our customers will be treated with courtesy"
    • a polite speech or action, especially one required by convention.
      plural noun: courtesies
      "the superficial courtesies of diplomatic exchanges"
    • (especially of transport) supplied free of charge to people who are already paying for another service.
      modifier noun: courtesy
      "he traveled from the hotel in a courtesy car"
     
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  8. 92gator

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    Ask her if she remembers what year...within early/mid/or latter decade.

    Just curious.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    Well, there was 1 eyewitness to the event (Judge). There was 1 alleged perpetrator (not an eyewitness). There were two people at the house that were not eyewitnesses to the event.
     
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  10. madgator

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    She keeps talking about her first two years in college......what about the 2-3 years between the event and her going to college?
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    She has stated that it was in the Summer when she was 15. It was 1982. She has never claimed it was late in the decade. 1982 could be reasonably described as early or mid decade.
     
  12. madgator

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    and what were those other two peoples comment?
     
  13. LouisvilleGator

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    How you arrived home 8 miles away without a driver's license after an alleged assault is a "mundane detail"? And you contradict yourself when you first say "traumatic events" (obviously including her arrival home) often include gaps, but then you go on to say memory is much more sensory during "trauma" (aka traumatic events).
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    They don't recall the gathering.
     
  15. Bazza

    Bazza GC Hall of Fame

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    That could apply to ALL politicians! :emoji_dancers::emoji_ok_woman::emoji_man_dancing:
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    She said four years, including the first two years of college.
     
  17. 92gator

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    That's what she settled on .

    About 20 mins ago, the prosecutor confronted her on discrepancies in her account to NYT vs. letter to Fienstein's ofc., vs. therapists' note (also noting that Kav NEVER MENTIONED in therapist's notes...), even at one point scratching out EARLY 80'S, and CORRECTING TO MID 80'S...
     
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    Born again virgins. I have never understood the movement or the need for it.
     
  19. mdgator05

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    Yes, transportation is quite mundane.

    That isn't at all contradictory. Details of events, especially mundane details, are often forgotten while sensory information is retained (e.g., the room was painted blue, it smelled like pine cleanser, etc.). From my own life, when I lost a close family member of mine at a young age, I woke up at my grandfather's house the next day on the couch. I could not tell you how I got there. And my memory is quite good in a normal situation.
     
  20. GatorBen

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    Her counsel didn't do her any favors here either apparently. :emoji_confused:

    That was an extremely awkward exchange of her saying that she had been hoping the Committee investigators would come to her rather than her having to fly to DC but that couldn't happen, it being noted that Grassley repeatedly offered to have either investigators or the Committee itself travel to California to speak with her, then getting a privilege objection to the question of whether her counsel communicated those offers to her.

    She's been fairly believable in this testimony so far, but I'm not sure that all of those around her could have done more to make this look like a political game even if they tried.