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Kavanaugh Hearing

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by ursidman, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. LouisvilleGator

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    Very good post. All fathers with daughters should take notes.
     
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  2. AgingGator

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    I was at UF from 79 to 83. I went to several parties in Tampa with friends from UF that probably had a keg for about every 10 people there. Good times in that town. UF was the same if not more.

    I guess we ran in different circles at the same time.
     
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  3. OaktownGator

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    To ever convict a rapist, sure. Have to report quickly and get the rape kit.

    And even then, of rapes reported to police, only 2% of attackers ever see prison time.

    Here are the current statistics on rape:
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  4. diehardgator1

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    Doug Williams is a former Oklahoma City detective sergeant. As an officer in the department's internal affairs and polygraph unit, he conducted thousands of polygraph tests. In the late 1970s, however, Williams began to doubt that the so-called lie detector actually is such a thing, and within a decade he had evolved into one of the most vocal, visible, and theatrical critics of the polygraph. Williams shows Bloomberg exactly how simple it is to manipulate, and beat, the lie detector test. (Video by Jennafer Savino and Justin Beach) (Source: Bloomberg)

     
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  5. gator_lawyer

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    It's pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about here. Debra Katz is both a reputable and well-known lawyer who specializes in cases involving sexual misconduct. Alan Dershowitz is nothing more than a talking head at this point. You don't hire a criminal defense attorney to represent you as a plaintiff in a major civil class action case. Lawyers have specialties. This case falls into Katz's specialty. I don't much care if you like her or not, but she's very much a legitimate attorney.
     
  6. Balbanes

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    Oh I absolutely have stuff to work through; it's not anger though. And I'm not projecting. What I've said seems to have hit particularly close to home for you though? As evidenced by your passionate and defensive responses to what is not an attack on you.
     
  7. Balbanes

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    Appreciate the support. I could write a book on the stuff I've been through. Probably will, lol.
     
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  8. AgingGator

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    Of course not. I cannot speak for everyone but I have never said this was Dr. Fords fault. All I have said is that given the lack of credible evidence, the history and lack of credibility of the people that she has surrounded herself with, and her obvious political differences with Brett Kavanaugh, I am not ready to convict him or even doubt him.
     
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  9. Balbanes

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    What would it take, outside of hard scientific evidence, to convince you to even doubt him?

    Note that in the vast, vast majority of these cases, no hard evidence exists.
     
  10. OaktownGator

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    Make no mistake - I have been to keg parties. Maybe I'm underestimating the number of kegs.

    But I am also pointing what appears to have been a pretty small group of HS guys claiming to go through 100 kegs in one school year. More than likely there were other alcohols at these parties as well.

    Maybe their parties were bigger than I'm presuming from the stories, so more kegs per party, but seems like a ton of drinking for HS kids.
     
  11. LouisvilleGator

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    Thanks for the stats. I wonder if you can find any stats on of those reported to police, how many were reported within the first 48 hours of the incident?
     
  12. Balbanes

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    In a study of 216 false accusations of sexual assault, only two led to charges before they were found to be false. In a study of all recorded sexual assault cases in the us, only 52 men were falsely convicted, as compared to nearly 800 wrt murder convictions in the same time period.

    Reasons these numbers are so low:
    • False accusations of sexual assault are very easily disproved during the investigation phase (remember Ford requested an investigation)
    • 2/3rds of all sexual assault cases go unreported.
    Just some food for thought. Source below, and some of the studies that are linked in the article.

    What the Research Says About (the Very Rare Phenomenon of) False Sexual Assault Allegations
     
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  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    It wasn't a bet. No man is going to publicly come forward (release his name).
     
  14. Bazza

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    Live coverage....

     
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  15. Balbanes

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    www.google.com
     
  16. philobeddoe

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    I doubt a person who drank as much as Oak and others allege ..... would have the capacity to qualify them for the SCOTUS and age 50.

    It's my experience that people who bragged about all of their "partying" .... didn't party nearly as much as they claimed.
     
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  17. gator_lawyer

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    Why are Grassley and Feinstein making opening statements? I have no interest in what either of those blowhards have to say.
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    All three accusers have come forward publicly. Why do we not have the names of the men? Answer: Because there's nothing to the claims. It's a red herring.
     
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  19. OaktownGator

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    This has nothing to do with what I posted. I'm just relaying what's been reported.

    This is all about what Kavanaugh, his friends, roommate and accusers said. With still more coming forward (Judge's girl friend).

    Based on his judicial career and the number of positive references he has, my guess is that he took a look in the mirror after college and decided to quit drinking so hard. Possibly by the time he hit law school as the college stories appear to be under grad.
     
  20. VAg8r1

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    A polygraph test, in and of itself, should never be considered conclusive, however, a test combined with other evidence and/or testimony may be useful in corroborating that testimony. In this instance, Blasey Ford revealed the incident allegedly involving Kavanaugh more than once during therapy sessions and specifically identified Kavanaugh as the perpetrator to her husband. Although I may be mistaken her therapist will not be testifying before the Committee nor her therapist's notes be introduced into evidence (I'm presuming that Dr. Blasey Ford would waive any privilege and permit her therapist to testify as well as allow her notes to be disclosed to the Committee).