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Kavanaugh Hearing

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  1. OklahomaGator

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    Listening to the radio driving back to work it was reported that the Senate has offered public testimony, private testimony and even offered to send Senate staff to California for her to give a sworn deposition.
     
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  3. Nawlens Gator

    Nawlens Gator GC Hall of Fame

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    Bietch is obviously lying. Political BS. Scum bags like this are the reason you're innocent until proven guilty in the US, not vice versa.
     
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  4. philobeddoe

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    It has everything to do with democrat politics …. and their moral failure to follow through on the allegations against Clinton. Can't blow off one set of allegations and demand different handling of others. That's not the way it works.

     
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  5. philobeddoe

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    Oh snap:

    A former classmate of Christine Blasey Ford tells NPR that she does not know if an alleged sexual assault by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh took place as she first suggested on social media.

    "That it happened or not, I have no idea," Cristina King Miranda told NPR's Nina Totenberg. "I can't say that it did or didn't."

    That's different from what Miranda wrote Wednesday in a now-deleted Facebook post that stated definitively, "The incident DID happen, many of us heard about it in school."


     
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  6. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    You're a hoot.

    Hypocrisy is rife in DC politics on both side. You can use it to rationalize anything if that's the approach you want to take.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. We all learned this a LONG time ago and it's still true.
     
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  7. philobeddoe

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    Doubt she will. She's unwilling to file a "false" police report (the reason she's never pursued the allegation with law enforcement) so she's not going to say anything under oath.

    Her only interest is in causing a public maelstrom for political purposes. After all …. that's what was said about the many women who levelled allegations of sexual misconduct against Willie J Clinton.
     
  8. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    And to add to this, there is no more singularly hypocritical group of people than Trump supporters. Ever.

    Almost every principled position Pubs have ever claimed to stand for, he is the antithesis of in words and actions.

    So excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your attempt to claim some high road wrt hypocrisy.
     
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  9. philobeddoe

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    Hey ...... at least I'm not disingenuous and morally inconsistent as regards this matter. :cool:
     
  10. philobeddoe

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    Not a very astute observation on your part. I thought you might be able to discern the difference between someone who's "pro-trump" and one who's "anti-progressive leftie insanity". Guess not. Let me LMAO at that.
     
  11. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    That is a personal insult unless you have something to back it up.

    So back it up or retract it.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    Cool. We were discussing Doug Jones.

    If Judge was too drunk to recall due to his partying, that's the truth. That's all he has to say. If he were my client, I'd figure out what he knows. What I'd advise him to do would depend on that.

    I might be misremembering because I can't find the article. Regardless, based on her letter, I feel confident that if the Committee offered to hire impartial former FBI agents to investigate, she would be game. If that wasn't acceptable, I'd join you in criticizing her for it. However, having Republican staffers conduct the investigation is obviously not impartial.

    By figuring out who may have attended. If they had all the specifics, no investigation would be needed.

    Maybe Judge told somebody. Maybe she told somebody while fleeing the party. She was traumatized and does not remember every detail.

    She walked her statement back, but in the interview with NPR, she did not retract the part about their being buzz that something happened.

    Because the point is to narrow down the time and place. You build a timeline. You collect facts. That's how an investigation works. Your complaint that they MAY not be able to resolve all the ambiguities is a terrible justification for not investigating. It's like saying, "FSU may not be able to beat NIU, so let's just forfeit the game." You don't give up because something is difficult. There's no true deadline that would prevent them from investigating.
     
  13. philobeddoe

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    How is it a personal insult? I'm simply and accurately characterizing what I am not. You, in fact, made a specific reference about me …. which is a personal insult. So ……. read your own post, my man.
     
  14. gator_lawyer

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    No chance. Republicans in Alabama would have booted him out no matter what.
     
  15. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    You make that claim, but your posts back up Trump at every opportunity. And even make things about Trump when they're not, as you did earlier in this thread.
     
  16. philobeddoe

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    Well ….. arrive at your opinion as you wish. We disagree …. and I cannot change that which you want to believe. And that is fine. I'm not too concerned if someone sees me as "pro-trump". I was in the 2016 election … and would still vote Trump over Clinton, today.

    But, back to the topic …. does Ford testify to the Senate judiciary Committee? If she does …. what will her story be?
     
  17. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    I claimed Trump supporters are hypocrites. And I have posted specifically why many times on this board. I can do it again if you really need the laundry list.

    Of course, you just went out of your way to claim you're not a Trump supporter. Therefore my comment on hypocrisy did not apply to you.

    So which is it?

    Are you a Trump supporter who got offended about being called out as a hypocrit, or are you disingenuously claiming I somehow insulted you?

    And you still need to back up what I've said that is disingenuous and/or morally inconsistent. I eagerly await the mental gymnastics that will entail. ;)
     
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  18. philobeddoe

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    **If Senate Democrats and their media allies manage to destroy Brett Kavanaugh, they will bring America one step closer to a new, liberal style of totalitarianism.

    I don’t use the “T”-word lightly. I’ve spent years pushing back against those who fling it about in free societies like ours. But totalitarianism doesn’t require cartoonish, 1984-style secret police and Big Brother. The classical definition is a society where everything — ethical norms and moral principles and truth itself — is subjugated to political ends.

    By that measure, the Democratic campaign to block Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, based on a hazy, uncorroborated, decades-old assault allegation, tends toward the totalitarian. Certainly, it has many of the elements of abusive politics that Americans normally associate with foreign lands untouched by the light of liberty and reason:"

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/19/the-drive-to-sink-kavanaugh-is-liberal-totalitarianism/
     
  19. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy

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    If we just disagree on some issue, that's nothing new. Happy to disagree and leave it at that.

    You want to claim I'm being disingenuous or morally inconsistent, I will only let that stand if you can back it up. And if I've been inconsistent I'll admit it. Disingenuous is not who I am.

    On topic, I don't know what Ford is going to do. As of right now it doesn't look like she will testify on Monday as she is clearly trying to delay.
     
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  20. philobeddoe

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    You know what's really sad as regards this unseemly affair …….. everyone has forgotten about Judge Kavanaugh's family … his wife and his kids. They are truly the innocent victims in this sordid affair launched by Diane Feinstein and her cohorts. Funny how the left proclaims to be woman and kid friendly …… yet do not really care when it comes to conservative women and children.
     
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