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Update: Kelly buzz..."The Thread" Hall of Fame bound.

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by tilly, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. gatorade

    gatorade All American

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    I don't know what he did or did not include as I haven't seen the contract nor was I the OP for this tidbit.
    I am sure SS was feeling really good about seemingly securing a massive splash hire. Let's also be honest, CK was calling the shots in that negotiation. I am only going off what I use to do as an agent.

    Keep in mind, Trace Armstrong, who still resides in Gainesville and represents a number of high profile coaches has yet to he heard of or mentioned here.
     
  2. BenTrillGriffin

    BenTrillGriffin All American

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    Agreed, I think the real deal is it was "done" in principal. I heard the post dated contract piece Monday but I thought it was odd. I have a hard time believing something was put on paper. The exact rumor I heard was CK had inked it just not UF, which also sounded like hogwash - hence why I didn't share it.
     
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  3. cocodrilo

    cocodrilo GC Hall of Fame

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    Ah, comprendo. Tu marido se fue por la puerta. Como se va tu libro?
     
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  4. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    You would look a man in the eye, shake his hand in a verbal agreement, all the while planning to stick him in the back? You sound proud of that @gatorade - SMH
     
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  5. GatorByte

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    I think you are missing my point. It wouldn’t be a “trap” at all, rather an offer that you either sign or don’t sign. If you still want to talk money or other provisions fine... then the offer changes, and you either commit (or not) to that.

    Any kind of delay in effectiveness of the deal is a huge red flag. If that was agreed to, then we most certainly have more than just one fool that got on that plane to go up there. We should all be concerned now. This was a complete disaster. There is no sugar coating it. We went from a position of complete strength in the hiring process to twisting in the wind.
     
  6. thale410

    thale410 GC Hall of Fame

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    I honestly feel there was an element of "F it, I've got no one else to deal with at the moment, so let's explore the fanboy favorite and see where it goes", to SS's moves with CK.

    I don't think it was a coincidence that all intel pointed to it being done (one way or the other) this weekend. Grab a big fish or move on to the expected window of negotiations.
     
  7. yoyogator

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    Post dated contract that can be opted out of is FAR from a done deal.. obviously
     
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  8. gatorade

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    This is a dirty business. Hate to break it to you but all coaches/agents lie. Every one of them. Even the honest ones.
     
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  9. tomis_gator

    tomis_gator GC Hall of Fame

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    Probably so. And not that worried about Kelly being a dick right now...more worried about our incompetent UAA.
     
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  10. BenTrillGriffin

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    Well of course, it's done until it's not done. As we have learned lol
     
  11. gatorade

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    Not proud at all. The business is tough and relentless. Lack of moral compass. So I quit.
     
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  12. thale410

    thale410 GC Hall of Fame

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    The clarity of hindsight. No one walks from a target that is in demand simply because they might be negotiating with others. You make your best offer to garner a final deal. I doubt the outcome was a shock to SS, simply a calculated risk that had no downside for UF other than ultimately not getting CK.

    All this other nonsense is UF fan butthurt and baggage because their beloved school was 'rejected' and Bruins now have some kind of perceived bragging rights.
     
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  13. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    There's too much riding on the need for the coach to be a man that the administration can trust - not only to do what he says he'll do, but also to keep the damn program out of trouble with the NCAA. What in hell is the point of all the 'vetting' and 'show cause' due diligence everybody was demanding of our administration before getting anywhere near Kelly, if you can't even trust the guy to respect and honor his agreement?

    This isn't a hired gun, or an entertainer, or a mercenary, or even an athlete we're trying to partner with here - it's a head coach of your football program, and father figure to dozens of teenage kids. I say BS to all your "hate to break it to you, but. . . " garbage - if you can't trust the guy you don't want him. End of story
     
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  14. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    That sounds better to me. I don't give a shit how tough and relentless a job is, this isn't an individual, it's a freaking coach
     
  15. SwampThing316

    SwampThing316 Freshman

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    Quit playing the Monday morning quarterback gig. The guy obviously wanted to be on the west coast, and the circumstances say more about Chip Kelly's personality and morals than the UAA's strategy, which was obviously doing whatever it could to get Chip to UF. The leverage Chip had in the negotiations was the product of his previous success and is simply inescapable regardless of who he was negotiating with.
     
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  16. Gatorfred

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    The rejection would be more understandable that the swindle. I don’t buy in that UF’s legal team and SS would be put in that position.
     
  17. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    Perception is reality in this case. We got punked by a second-tier football program.
     
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  18. GatorDad63

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    More plausible would have been UF inked it and Chicken Ketchup did not.
     
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  19. gatorade

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    Your speaking from your heart. I am speaking from experience. For the record I completely agree with you.
    Reality is what I know. There is real money to be had and lost here. Money makes people do fucked up things.
     
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  20. dadx4

    dadx4 GC Hall of Fame

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    I learned after "STAB."