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Update: Kelly buzz..."The Thread" Hall of Fame bound.

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by tilly, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. Nicho

    Nicho GC Hall of Fame

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    He should invest in a motorcycle like past Arkansas coaching greats.
     
  2. howdygator

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    No, I don't think so. Most of the time, you win by surprise and better athletes. Nothing has changed there. Most of college football is utilizing much of the same. The spread option still lives but is less prolific than it was 5 years ago.
     
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  3. wargunfan

    wargunfan GC Hall of Fame

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    Weren't we supposed to be celebrating with champagne this weekend. I took that to mean certain folks were in the know that we had a "done deal" with one Mr. Chip Kelly. Four day old posts are still there and relevant to the veracity of the poster. Turns out the folks who are supposedly in the know don't know any more than we do.
     
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  4. Matthanuf06

    Matthanuf06 GC Hall of Fame

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    No. The top pro teams are pass first spread teams. Heck some use mostly shotgun. Nowhere near the “pro” style of Muschamp.

    It’s a little weird we consider Champ pro style but the Belichick/Brady offense would be considered a gimmick in the SEC
     
  5. ShadowCat

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    Suprised that they field a football team if thatbwas the case... i dont recall seeing many white boys in Texas uniforms...
     
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  6. RAC

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    Just one example. When you treat others like garbage, says a whole bunch about character
     
  7. GatorMatt06

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    Lol he literally tried Tebow then cut him, people can’t take their O & B glasses off trying to make excuses for why we shouldn’t have Kelly in the first place.
     
  8. fox

    fox GC Hall of Fame

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    That's what I'm going with.
     
  9. gator_lawyer

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    Eh, this is a tad misleading. Pro offenses have adopted spread concepts and are utilizing more formations and personnel packages that were associated with early spread offenses. However, the chief differences between pro style offenses and college spread offenses are related to the complexity of the offense in pretty much all aspects (playbook, route tree, route combinations, protections, reads/progressions for the QB, etc.). That hasn't changed.

    Of course, using pro style offense and spread offense is a huge generalization considering the vast differences between all of the schemes that fall under those two headings. Nonetheless, in college football, a pro style offense is generally going to ask more from the players mentally than a college spread.
     
  10. pd_gator

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    We need a creative HC that will keep the opposing D on it's toes on every snap. I'm surprised if Kelly or Frost not coming seeing who's committed. They should be salivating at the chance to coach Matt Corral, he's going to make life VERY easy on our next HC imho.

    (I still think Chip is smart enough to know he can be a God at UF)
     
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  11. ajjaxgator

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    Good thought. Since it seems such an inane requirement, I can't imagine CK accepting that, THEN balking. As soon as you see that, you put a line thru it and slide the paper back to UAA.
     
  12. brunzca

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    Frost and Strong have both been successful at mid majors. I would say that Frost’s turnaround of UCF has been more impressive, though. The difference is experience. Frost has less, overall, which worries me. But, Strong, in his stint at a major college at HC, failed. If those were the two choices, I’d take the guy with the promise over the guy who had a shot and wasn’t successful. Just my opinion, though.
     
  13. fierygator

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    Nah, everything’s fluid in negotiations. Tilly and BTG have been giving the best info available to them at the time it was given. No one could predict that CK would keep asking for more after apparently both UF and UCLA agreed to his requirements.
     
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  14. DarthGat0R

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    I do recall, I was excited when I thought Tebow would be in the NFL with a spread option coach.
    Do not follow the NFL enough to recall why Tim never really got a chance in Philly.
     
  15. DieAGator

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    My suspicion is Kelly and his agent asked for more than is reasonable and none if it was performance based. As some have pointed out Kelly's system may be more defendable now than 5 seasons ago. I'm not that disappointed with where things seem to be. I told myself "wait, it's not done yet" even when I had good information that he would be our coach.

    If we get a good recruiting HC and he hires some damn good Assistants we can be a respectable program sooner than later. But good for Chip Kelly if he ends up commanding top coach pay and everything he believes a program owes him to sign the contract. We could easily end up satisfied that we did not "land" the great Chip Kelly.
     
  16. ajjaxgator

    ajjaxgator GC Hall of Fame

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    Well played, sir, well played.
     
  17. GameTime1

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    Is it odd that so many are reporting that kelly just wanted too much, but no one is reporting what he wanted?
     
  18. strulock

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    If he ends up here, all will be forgiven if he turns the program around quickly.
     
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  19. rgwgator

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    In the end he couldn't process NFL defenses fast enough to make throws on time. Sorta like our current QB and college defenses.
     
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  20. pd_gator

    pd_gator GC Hall of Fame

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    Yeah, tbh I don't get to watch much fb anymore.

    The big difference to me is if you have fast, reliablereliable athletes, the spread is ideal since you can create mismatches more readily. Like Meyer/Mullen, they were practically unstoppable.